Why is smith and wesson the only maker of scandium frames. This metal is extremely rare only about 4000lbs produced annually worldwide. Model sw1911sc eseries, round butt, scandium frame, 45 acp precision. Some of us were carrying slim pistols before slim was cool. If you choose to use a credit card visa, mastercard, discover or amex, there will be a 3. The gun itself new at the local store is almost 1500. The fit and finish was acceptable with no complaints.
If i ever buy another 1911, however, id still go w steel. Purchase a pdf download of the guns magazine august 2019 issue now. It will feel exactly like an aluminum framed 1911 because basically it is one. Smith and wesson model 1911sc e series scandium frame pistol. After we noticed this, we said, what do you want to trade it in for. They have a patent for how scandium is put into the aluminum alloy not the use of scandium. This makes for a gun that gives you that fullsized handgun confidence. There has been a trend to everlighter handgun frame construction, in an effort to make pistols lighter and more convenient to carry. They are available with aluminium frames alloyed with scandium in either natural or. There were issues corrected under warranty with a new barrel. So, i was just astaifying my curiousity about them. Discussion in uncategorized threads started by mallardfilmore, feb 28, 2007. The handsome roundbutt scandium commander has everything david wants in a 1911 at any price.
I held, but couldnt shoot, one of the new sc 1911 s about 3 weeks ago. Ive always wanted a 1911 and ive finally gotten to the fuck it, im buying one stage. Im looking for tritium for sure, but i havent decided on the style. Oh no not that again was my first thought as my last expereience with it was with high suck factor. The lightweight frame is made from aluminum instead of steel like the regular guns.
I literally wore out an old lw commander, which actually didnt take very long. Scandium frame 1911 i am sort of surprised at the comments in this thread about the scandium frames. Theres a springfield armory railed commander, but ive got reason to believe no details yet, but something from what i think is an unbiased source that the springfield in question isnt a viable choice. You have to spend a lot more to buy the same quality elsewhere. At first i didnt think much of it, but then i noticed the letters sc on the slide and the little atom diagram logo. The scandiumaluminum alloys are all light as a feather and tough as steel.
This is the perfect gun to shoot if you want to develop a flinch. And, for easier concealment, 1911s with 414, 4 and even 3. Well, they can and they have been for a very long time before they ever actually put out a 1911 gun. Remember, the frame is still alloy, and the slide steel and grease is your friend imho. This is a great looking compact 1911 that has a twotone grayblack finish that exhibits very little use apart for some very mild fading along the bearing surfaces of the sides of the grip safety. The knuckle on my trigger finger was sore for 30 minutes after firing 12 rounds. Originally released for improved carry functionality, the round heel configuration is a recent innovation to the 1911 platform. In general i have fortyfive years of experience with. It comes with rubber finger grips, and alot of extras. Smith and wesson model 1911sc e series scandium frame pistol description. Does anyone know which sights will fit on this slide. None of the guns were able to be used without gun smithing.
Awesome gun to start with and tons of custom features. That the marketing team decided to just call something with. If it wasnt for that pesky external extractor it would not be going anywhere. High noon holsters need for speed holster is the best design jeff has ever found for the 1911 pistol. As my personal guns include a sa 1911a1 compact which is basically a lightweight combat commander 4.
Will consider trade of equal value or plusminus cash. Smith and wesson preferred to call it hammer follows slide, but i know a submachinegun when i shoot one. Those 1911s built for bullseye shooting near the middle of the 20th. W 1911 sc scandium lightweight 45 acp excellent condition minor holster wear on sharp edges at muzzle. More or less prefer the govt model as opposed to the commander series. Sw1911sc eseries round butt scandium frame caliber. Im looking into buying a revolver and a 1911 that both have scandium frames. I will run this for idpa once a month as it will replace daily carry 5 inch. It took only 1 week for the frame to scratch up under the safety and show wear marks. Hi, folks currently my only 1911 is the gunsite scandium, which i love, but i have never been fond of the original sights. In that 8 years, i have yet to experience a single malfunction. The frame eventually cracked on the colt from continued use of duty ammo. Estimates vary from 18 to 25 ppm, which is comparable to the abundance of cobalt 2030 ppm. Youre not gonna see much weight difference compared to a standard aluminumframed 1911.
Mar 16, 2020 awesome gun to start with and tons of custom features. Scandium is only the 50th most common element on earth 35th most abundant in the crust, but it is the 23rd most common element in the sun. It has a slight idiot mark but is otherwise pristine. The high noon nfs holster securely carries the 1911 high and tight against the body for unsurpassed concealment. Scandium is a chemical element with the symbol sc and atomic number 21. This firearm retains the m1911s well known dimensions. Scandium, alloyed with the aluminum, keeps the frame from work hardening and subsequently cracking. Please allow up to 5 days for your order to process. They are also available with aluminum frames alloyed with scandium in either. Hi folks i am looking at buying a smith and wesson 1911 e series scandium frame. Also had problems with a broken mag release assembly and broken plunger tube.
But i already had my 1911 bases covered, or so i thought. I heard a story about how the russians were the only ones to have mastered scandium and that s. So, i will probably never buy an aluminum 1911 again. I picked it up a month ago, got it to the range a week later and ran about 100 rounds through it. A silverywhite metallic dblock element, it has historically been classified as a rareearth element, together with yttrium and the lanthanides. Initially i tried to adjust the windage on the rear sight, but the.
It was a beautiful gun, accurate and easy to handle, however, on one particular day down on the department range it decided to go full auto on me. Just looking for some feedback on some of yall s experiences with the material. My point is if anything this should be called scandium aluminum alloy. Matt rice of blue heron communications speaks with the truth about guns about smith and wessons new line of 1911s the eseries. While the 1911 pistol design is approaching the century mark, it is still a very viable pistol and extremely popular with those who willingly go in harms way. No increased recoil with the use of the scandium frame. The commander is basically a 1911 government model pistol with the barrel and slide shortened. I tested one of the companys two, scandiumframe eseries models with a 4. It was discovered in 1879 by spectral analysis of the minerals euxenite and gadolinite from scandinavia. But, i was asking about the scandium because i always hear that they are more durable. These 1911s are manufactured with a wide variety of materials, finishes and unique features and are favorites in any collection. There is only a 2% scandium alloy in the aluminum so there is no discernible weight delta.
Discussion in general 1911 talk started by molly hatchet, aug 16, 2012. Well, perhaps weight reduction efforts have gone too. These 1911 s are manufactured with a wide variety of materials, finishes and unique features and are favorites in any collection. For more information on how these numbers are calculated, please visit the concealed carry factors information page. This firearm retains the m1911 s well known dimensions. If you do get one, remember to keep the rails greased well. Very tight slide to frame fit with almost no movement in the slide. I personally saw scandium framed 1911s that were not properly greased and showed excess, premature wear. Im open to trades to see what anyone has out there. So theres a friend of mine that is interested in a lightweight carry one hundred times more than shoot revolver as a backup for a hunt later this year. I emailed them and according to them, they use a small amount of scandium in an actual aluminum frame and it increases the strength of the aluminum by %50. Dont see these around very often the scandium frame is awesome as it saves right around 8oz but it s still very balanced. The scandium alloy in the aluminum acts during the flexing of the frame, returning it to its original shape, thus vastly extending the useable life of the frame. I am wondering as a shooter pistol how is the wear and will hold up.
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